But once someone learns to sort through fact and fiction ie. material from spiritual, how can they NOT lose faith in a deity? The spiritual cannot be tested, therefore cannot be true. Once someone realizes that, a deity is not important.
Captain Obvious
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A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian
by cofty ina manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.
peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.
- amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.
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Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)
by slimboyfat inafter some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
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Captain Obvious
You said there is no hope outside the truth ... But on other threads you state ad nauseum that there is no truth , no facts , etc... You are right, you don't fit in here.
Of course you are joking about "returning to jehovah" lol good luck, see you at the big A
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Just stumped 2 Elders! Lol
by El_Guapo ini am currently on a business trip for a trade show in another city.
as i'm walking to the convention center, i run into 2 jw's preaching.
one is about mid 60s the other probably mid 30's.
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Captain Obvious
You didn't stump them, you just set off their apostate alarms. They weren't going to waste their time on you
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Divorced Atheist ex-JW Dad
by braincleaned ini just wanted to chime in as a loving atheist father, divorced to a jw, and what plays as far as educating our children.. we have shared custody but the kids are mainly with their mom - 11 and 14 respectively.. the problem i face is keeping a balance for my children.
i have turned atheist during our marriage, so my ex didn't have the spiritual support she signed up for anymore.
i can understand it is not easy.
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Captain Obvious
With the advent of the Information Age, the odds of your children turning out to be Atheists is high regardless of what you do. You can teach your children to think, without a frontal attack on their faith. Then let the internet take care of the rest. Just make sure they don't get baptized too young... Or at all.
The odds are in your favour. Just remember: them becoming believing adults IS a bad situation.
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WT simplifying dates? other thought on Dec 15 edition.
by prologos intrivial but interesting:.
1) page 23 : simplified memorial date : 4 numbers only: 14 / 4/ 20 14 -or- 4 / 14 / 20 14 -or- 20 14 / 4 / 14. it is only numerology, and if you switched between julian& gregorian calenders, the order would disappear , yet if we could have an eclipse too, like we had in the 60s in eastern north america, icing on the cake.. 2) the front cover, two huge stones piled in the back yard of the house, precariously perched.
perhaps an attempt to please god through service 6000 bc.
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Captain Obvious
No point trying to find cryptic messages from the WT outside of the revelation book... Dubs are too stupid, and there's no elite secret group who knows how to read them. Go ahead, bring this up to a JW friend and watch their reaction.
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Donating to charities discouraged by the WT
by lambsbottom inhi everyone,.
im trying to find articles from the wt and awake that show when the writers are discouraging charity work or giving.
from any books would be good also..
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Captain Obvious
Regardless of what the WT says in writing, the general attitude of JWs towards worldly charities is VERY negative... Not sure why. I mean most JWs feel the same.
Part of helping my wife to wake up was to help her see what charities can do for people. This year she gave $500 to local charities, I'm very proud.
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Marriage In The New World
by Cold Steel inokay, here's the issue.
some people, even some jws, believe that in the new world they will be reunited with their spouses.
jesus, however, said that in the resurrection there would be no marriage or giving in marriage.
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Captain Obvious
Well either way, they won't be gods of their own planets...
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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......
by DATA-DOG injust answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
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Captain Obvious
SFPW is usually quick to jump in with his ignorant crap... At least he is polite enough to let you know that he saw your thread, but it puts him at unease.
Im really curious to see what he has to say. He more just stats opinions and hate, not much intelligent debate with this fellow.
Remember Recovery? Of course. At least he was able to have an in depth discussion. His arrogance was an issue, but at least he was better read than the average JW. This fool is just like the rest. 90% of posters here know more than ANY JW About their own religion... That's why they're here.
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Captain Obvious
Fantastic.
Every follower of Abraham (Jew, Christian, Muslim... Same thing) should give this serious thought.
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New Understanding of this Generation
by pronomono inanother tidbit of information about this generation from the 1/15/2014 study edition under "let your kingdom come - but when?".
they've changed it again.. this generation will not pass away14-16.
what is a third reason for believing that gods kingdom will come soon?.
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Captain Obvious
It's a convenient way to curb the climbing number of partakers at the memorial! Clever...